DigiBizPro - Less Than Impressive - Join With Caution!

01 Nov 09 9:18 am

Dale,

This is Letian from DBP. I'm happy to come by and talk about DigiBizPro and also about your perceptions. I want to be open about it for everyone's well-being.

I actually own sites on many networks from Clickbank to PayDotCom to NicheChoppers to Payzeno to Plimus and even more on some small private networks. We decided to use Paypal-driven networks (such as payzeno or paydotcom) for all DBP members as a default because it's the easiest to set up and provide an immediate payment processing solution where we really could set it 100% up for everyone joining, without fees or longer approval times. We honestly know that a lot of people (especially those who are very new) really want their sites just instantly and would not stand to wait.

In that sense, yes it is a shortcut but you can actually succeed regardless of the network. I have in my personal experience :)

Our goal is to make sure they are 100% set up and ready to start growing as well as optimizing.

The reason is that we want to cater even to the newest newbie in getting their internet business set up and not just strictly to the more advanced people. The more advanced ones such as yourself may want to do all sorts of things from optimizing your site's content in a certain way or recruiting affiliates in a totally different fashion than our video vault teaches.

We only teach it the way that has succeeded for us- but that does not mean your way will not work. It absolutely can! :)

Our video vault shows a lot of things and combined with Jamie's help, you will learn seo (our way), article marketing, joint venturing, and even selling sites on auction as these all apply to your sites.

Now to your most important concern ... we provide per customer a unique domain and the ability to choose between niches. Within each of those niches, there are a couple variations. And if not enough (some have one), we keep adding. We even have the "suggest a niche" feature for Jamie to create new niches like makeup tips, home power, etc. Thus if many people choose the same niche, there are bound to be some cross over in its variations.

This is why we spend a ton of effort to make a good video vault on how to customize your sites if you wish. Even if you don't, we still want them to be at least high-converting in well-looked over niches which can do well.

Also, I've notified Jamie (he is the actual creator of the product and service and has helped countless others) and he'll be personally coming on here to give his insights and replies as well on this since it's that important if we are causing a concern like this.

Please let me know if you need anything else and in particular Jamie can help a lot.

I just wanted to take the time out and come out to say that Jamie is tenaciously busy caring for customers and will be more than happy to assist you as well.

I want to see you taken cared of Dale! :) did you speak to jamie? (add him to skype from inside your membership) He lives in anything but an "ivory tower" and has a great reputation from virtually all our personal clients in the past, even people who buy our niches sites created.

01 Nov 09 12:59 pm

Hey guys, I had Letian on the live webinar with me because I've known him for a few years from the niche marketing side of my business. I first met him through one of our dating niche website affiliate recruitment emails.

I am impressed with what he has done with his business and he spent over 2 hours sharing with people on the webinar how he goes about making money through building Niche websites. He even shared a lot of these websites on the call.

At the end of the call Letian talked about his new product, one that I hadn't had time to check out yet personally, but my staff had given me the ok that it was a good product. To me it sounded like a really good deal and Letian did say on the webinar that the websites were unique.

While I was disappointed to find out that they weren't unique, I did always suspect that they would be more likely to be Private Label Rights websites which in any case seemed like good value for the price.

So I bought the 10 site license myself, however I haven't had time to go through the websites yet as I only arrived back from my wedding anniversary vacation 2 hours ago (my wife and I went away for 5 nights).

My plan is simply to rebrand the graphics, rewrite the salescopy, get a writer to spend 2 days on each of the ebooks upgrading them, and put each one up on clickbank with 75% commission for each product. I might even do video salescopies for each product. Usually when I do this kind of thing for PLR rights products I don't make a fortune, but usually at a minimum I'll make $1500 per year per website. An example of one of my rebranded websites is http://www.stopheartburnfast.com (which bears no resemblance to the plr site I started with).

For $997 to get 10 websites, I don't expect the highest quality, but I do expect that it will be a very good starting point that will save me hours of time and that I will make a LOT more than my money back assuming I do my reworking of the content.

The great thing Dale though is that you are offered a money back guarantee, so you can get your money back very easily if you are dissatisfied with Letians product. I'll be doing the same if it doesn't look like it is worth the value, I'll find that out during the week.

All the best,
Mark

01 Nov 09 9:55 pm

Way to go Dale. This is the good mindset to have. Things need to be tweaked and improved. It works like this online.

Franck

02 Nov 09 7:24 am

Hey Dale,

You gave me a great idea there. I am going to talk to my programmers about the graphical software possibilities. With everything they have done so far I believe this might be possible. Regardless of the outcome I can't wait for you and all the other members to see what we have already coming out this week. Talk to you guys soon.

Do you believe we are selling out in 30 minutes!

Jamie

03 Nov 09 1:42 am

Hi Beldin!

Some of the ebooks are shorter than others, and we are constantly writing new ebooks for you.
For example, the MakeMoneyOnline ebooks have 60+ pages.
If you would like a longer ebook, let me know and I will have it done.

If you need anything, just ask, we will produce it for you.

Jamie

05 Nov 09 9:29 pm

Hi Dale,

I just received my 10 websites last night(11-4-09) and everything is exactly what you said before:

"The problem is not with the program it is with the duplicate sites. I have 10 sites in 10 diffferent niches that they created. The sites are fine, not overly impressive but they are decent. The problem I have is that they use Pay Zeno to load your sites on for affiliates to promote them. Once my sites were loaded they were entered into the payzeno system. As I scoured the Pay Zeno sites looking for my products I noticed that many of the same products existed and the format that they were entered were the digibizpro footprint. As I looked at each site many were the exact same site with just different URL's. This is of great concern to me as an affiliate and no as a product promoter. If I were looking for an affiliate product to promote and found several sites that were exactly the same landing page I would not promote that product. Am I right on this? Do I have cause to be concerned here?"

Dale, I read your post before I got my websites and when I got them last night, I was surprised to see that MANY of the same exact websites and products already existed but only differed on domain names. How are those supposed to be unique websites? It all seems like generic cookie cutter stuff.

I'm not an expert on web design, but something doesn't seem right here. The team supposedly took over a whole week to design my websites that ended up being the exact same as the ones already posted. I could do the same thing by just copying and pasting the HTML, getting my hosting(cheap to do), and giving it a different domain name(very cheap). That's not hard. There's nothing 'unique' there.

I'm debating on whether I should even speak with Jamie before I go to ClickBank and ask for my money back. With so many people signed up in the same niches with the exact same generic looking websites, I just can't see how this thing could work with affiliates. If I were an affiliate, I would not likely promote something that 5 or more people are selling with the exact same looking website. Plus, there is no person behind any of the products which doesn't establish credibility with potential buyers. I have yet to examine the eBooks for the content and quality to see if they are worth the prices. Many customers can buy them, but it means nothing if they all ask for refunds in the end.

I'm disappointed and I haven't even started with the program.

I firmly believe Jamie Lewis is the real deal based on what I've heard. But I'm not so sure I can say the same about this DigiBiz Pro business he's promoting.

David

06 Nov 09 3:20 pm

Hey Gang,

Dale Here again...LOL!! I just review the Water-4-Gas ebook. Wow, this one must have taken them forever to write. It's a whopping 10 -page long!! I'll include and excerpt here:

"Chapter 2
Is it expensive to upgrade? Upgrading your vehicle to be able to use water as a fuel additive isn’t that expensive at all. A little technical know how you can do it yourself for under $200. That’s a hell of a lot cheaper that a Prius. You can upgrade regardless if you have a gasoline or diesel engine. The technology works for both! Weigh that with the fact that you’ll save money on gas and it’s a win-win situation for you! Read later and you’ll discover tax breaks for green technology. How can you possibly not want to use this technology?"

Believe it or not, that was the entire 2nd Chapter!! Each chapter fits on a single page!

Jamie please...are you kidding me. Who is going to keep this crap?

10 Nov 09 6:49 pm

I have doubts that I could sell the DBP ebooks as they are now. Any recommendations on how to find a good writer to upgrade my DBP ebooks? Thanks.

11 Nov 09 5:36 pm

You can find people on Elance.com to do that for you.

Franck

bob819 wrote:I have doubts that I could sell the DBP ebooks as they are now. Any recommendations on how to find a good writer to upgrade my DBP ebooks? Thanks.

12 Nov 09 2:14 am

Hi Guys, I've only just found this post (11/11/09 @ 23:15 approx) and much of what I've found as a client so far and was
already thinking has been articulated here and then some.

You know, when I listened to the Mark Ling webinar with Letian (who really does come over as a standup guy) I had real
misgivings about the cookie cutter sounding nature of the deal but the word "unique" was bandied about a fair bit and I
thought "Hey, Mark wouldn't recommend these guys if they weren't any good and anyway he's buying into the deal himself".

My take on it from the way it was being sold is I shouldn't have to do anything to the site or the product myself surely
that's one of the major points of the deal! Now, so far all my initial misgivings have been realised and compounded by what
Mark has said in his post about using each site and product as a starting point. I understand that aside from the points
already made regarding the clickbank vetting process they couldn't possibly put these products on Clickbank for the price of the deal simply because it costs $50 per product to do that.

I have given DigiBizPro some feed back regarding the quality of the ebooks i.e the 17 page rubbish they initially came up
with and although as Dale points out they have upgraded them to 50-50+ pages they still need a lot more work.
Jamie's latest email 0n 07/11/09 had links to 5 upgraded ebooks in the niches they gave me. For example the Golf niche. The new 54 page ebook which purports to have actually been written by Jamie talks about buying "golfing equipments". I've never ever heard native English speakers say that. We talk about equipment you don't need an "s" on the end of equipment!
There are loads of grammatical errors misspellings and omissions. Eg.(Page 7) "I would have loved to have my book point out your mistakes realtime, which I know is nigh impossible." (It should be "in realtime" and "well nigh impossible") in case you hadn't spotted them. The book is littered with this kind of stuff plus it looks like it (or at least some of it) has been
copied from a different page format because right in the middle of the page (page 7 again) underlined in bold is:

The first baby steps to mastering golf(contd…)

which judging from the rest of the book's format is meant to be at the top of a new page! So zero points for proof reading!

The new 50 page "Water For Gas" ebook has definitely been written by a person for whom English is most certainly not their first language. I could go on about the lack of diagrams etc but I wanted to make the point to Dale that Jamie may be coming through on this but he certainly hasn't come through yet. Clearly I'm no expert however I think if I was going to launch a multi site/product deal like this I would make sure I had high quality ebooks all ready for launch day. It should have all been ready before hand Jamie, so that all this nonsense would not happen!

A side question for Mark (or anyone else who knows) on the subject of Water For Gas. Is Water For Gas still a viable niche and product? Google Trends shows that it was massive in 2008 but is dead now. There seems to be loads of controversy about the claims being scientifically impossible i.e. contrary to the laws of physics. Controversy itself is not a bad thing in the marketing of a product (it can actually be a good thing) but if it's simply not true or a scam then I'd rather have a different niche.

I want to reiterate my point about the deal having been sold as "You don't have to do anything or spend any more money!
Although finding JVs will help." Letian says in his post, "Trust us a little bit, we know what we are doing." I say, "Listen
we trust you enough to be here don't we?" However, here I am so far having had to read several draughts of ebooks for the
same niche and give a critique in 10 separate niches and it's not over yet by a long chalk! Also, on the subject of trust I have to say that financially this is a last ditch "punt" for me because my finacial resources are about to run out so I can't do what Mark is doing until some money comes in.

Which brings up a technical question. For Mark to do what he describes in his post he or his team must have personal access to his websites admin panel: will I ever get access to my sites or do I always have to request changes via the request system? For example if I want an opt-in page or to incorporate an opt-in to my sales page to build my list, I've watched the video I have an aweber account but how do I actually create my opt-in page if I don't have access to the site online to put in the opt-in code?

I believe from what Mark has said and it's obvious in the DigiBizPro training videos that Jamie does know how to market
products but the critical question is can he market all our similar products on similar sites effectively on such a large
scale and how long will it take.

IMPORTANT: On the point of refunds - remember you only have 30 days from the day of purchase to get your refund. My purchase was on November 7th so I have to decide BEFORE December 6th 2009. I promised myself when I signed up to DigiBizPro that if no money had come in 2 days before the 30 day deadline I would demand a refund! Was I naive? I think I probably was! It's not looking that good right now though is it? I don't want to come across totally negative about everything because I'm hoping against hope that it will turn out great but I can't take the risk once the refund deadline is past. Whoops! Another day gone - it's past midnight and it's 12/11/09 here in the UK now! Of course if Jamie was to increase the deadline to 45 or even a clickbank style 60 days he might take some of the pressure off himself and his staff not to mention us customers! Hopefully you can see where I'm coming from...

Finally, Mark please can you do another post here on these issues? You said you would and more than a week has gone by since your last post.

Thanks - sorry for such a long post!
Frank

12 Nov 09 3:19 am

Well said Angela! That passage in "How to Attract Any Woman" or "Get a Girl".....certainly raised my eyebrows! Especially as it's supposed to have been written by a woman. Sounds like quite a raunchy chick! Lol.
There's me droning on about grammar and a word missing here and there and you nailed it in one fell swoop! Seriously though, when and if Jamie reads your post maybe what we're all on about will sink in. If you cut corners on a project like this you end up with garbage. What say you Letian? What say you Jamie? What say you Mark?

12 Nov 09 5:09 pm

Thanks very much for you response Mark.
Here's the thing: I opened a support ticket on Thursday Nov 5th at 12:03am added another query to the same ticket at 12:44am and it's taken until 14:12pm today Nov 12 to receive an email from their support team saying "I have forwarded this information to Jamie" Well it was all about ebook content so it's already out of date so I expect I'll get a response saying "we're working on it" or something similar. My point being 'shooting Jamie and his team an email' results in a reply 7 days later that is an obvious time wasting tactic while they battle to keep everyone happy.
With all this going on I think you you missed my question in my marathon post above! Here it is again.
A side question for Mark (or anyone else who knows) on the subject of Water For Gas. Is Water For Gas still a viable niche and product? Google Trends shows that it was massive in 2008 but is dead now. There seems to be loads of controversy about the claims being scientifically impossible i.e. contrary to the laws of physics. Controversy itself is not a bad thing in the marketing of a product (it can actually be a good thing) but if it's simply not true or a scam then I'd rather have a different niche.
Best regards,
Frank

12 Nov 09 9:31 pm

Hi Everyone,

The admin team of DigiBiz is processing my refund request as of the moment, and it was no trouble to them at all.

I'd like to point out that I myself did not like the products, but I am not insulting the whole concept or Jamie himself. He appears genuine. There are great tips, good videos on the site, good research, and a half decent done-for-you sales page. If done well, it is great for beginners, but essentially you are all selling the same prouducts/ebooks, but with different sales pages to advertise them.

I thought was a beginner but realise I'm not. I've developed other products and realise I prefer to do it that way.

About the Water for Gas niche: yes, it is a somewhat smaller niche than a while ago, and yes it can be done. But to convert your car from gas/petrol to water, it would involve changing the fuel injection, fuel pumps, fuel tanks, different head gaskets and more. It would cost a lot of money, time, and on parts. Also you probably would have to hire someone because it's VERY hard to do it yourself. So it's not very viable.

Good luck to all!

17 Nov 09 6:25 pm

I just dropped my Digibizpro as well and requested a full refund. It seemed to be a joke. Oh well.
Has anyone had any luck with it? $997 was just too much to risk with the hopes that it may turn into something.

18 Nov 09 3:50 pm

tbh i would keep trying to contact them regardless if they are busy or not, they should have done something by now.

remember they only took on a relatively small number in affiliate terms in order to maximise their effort on your business and with all the feedback regardless of negativity it shows their doing something, so to not even have login details after more than 2 weeks is somewhat worrying.

personally i would be harrassing them like mad to get some attention, even if it is just to be told they are working on it, although i wouldnt be happy with that, at the end of the day you have shelled out a lot of money and got diddly squat

19 Nov 09 6:11 pm

I was in the same boat as mannie, I tried and tried and bugged the hell out of them every day and got the same general almost automated response that they were working on it and it would be finished soon. That is why I dropped it like a bad habit. Got my money back which took another week or so to get back. Very poor customer support.

26 Nov 09 8:10 am

I am also fed up with the digibizpro service..

It has been 15 days since my request for refund.. I got a reply saying that it's being processed.
But I haven't got any refund yet.

Anybody who asked for refund, have you got your money back from jamie?

27 Nov 09 3:09 pm

albertleo wrote:I am also fed up with the digibizpro service..

It has been 15 days since my request for refund.. I got a reply saying that it's being processed.
But I haven't got any refund yet.

Anybody who asked for refund, have you got your money back from jamie?

I requested for refund first more than 27 days ago. Then again several times.... Besides promises nothing has happened.
I'm a bit concerned.

28 Nov 09 12:34 am

Blimey that's a long post! I really must learn to be more concise. Oh God here I go again......!

28 Nov 09 2:16 pm

"good reports about digibizpro"?
Well, we just spent 2 days rewriting the new and improved dating ebook, and we laughed till we cried, does that count?

I still believe that Jamie will come through given time, we will have to be a lot more involved than we originally hoped, but in the end *crossed fingers* it'll be worth it.

28 Nov 09 5:41 pm

Yeah JJ, I think you are right. Jamie is ok, his heart is in the right place. He will come through eventually.
As you say you will have to be more involved. Actually I did expect that I would naturally become more involved as time went by and I think that's Jamie's plan anyway because he wants to teach how to be an affiliate and a product publisher and that's fine. I still say that you shouldn't be having to rewrite the ebooks at this stage though. Well done for knuckling down and dealing with it. More power to you.
Mark Ling's approach was that he was intending to get the books rewritten anyway and then set up his own sites and put the products on Clickbank. So it kind of indirectly indicates that he wasn't expecting the quality to be great for the price - $100 per ebook, domain, 1 yr of hosting and site. I suspect that Jamie let it be over-subscribed a tad and his team has had their work cut out keeping up.
I sincerely hope it works out ASAP for all of you who've stuck with it. You deserve to be successful and make some money soon.
Regards,
Frank Levy

01 Dec 09 10:04 am

Well i am in the same boat as others
sent first refund request on 21/11/09
ended up ringing them they said they will be getting back to me
still no response and sent a ticket today to see if this gets answered?
so far i have emailed jamie direct from the address he blasted me with when i first joined
then sent an email to support nothing back for a week so far
so i call (at my cost for international call on mobile phone) still nothing (also nearly a week ago)
finally a support ticket
lets see.
If this is how to run a business it wont last long...
All in all just plainly pissed off now!

02 Dec 09 3:58 am

Gee you would hope 2.0 would be sorted better than this.
Anyhow i get a phone call last night at midnight OZ time (just great when you start at 5am )
and they say i will get my refund in around 7 days.
Funny that when i hear that wpmage turns everything around within a day for their refunds.
If you see this post jamie i would take a leaf from greg jacobs wpmage, apparently all you hear is his customer service is outstanding.
Will keep you posted if i get my money :)

02 Dec 09 6:34 pm

Good to hear from a satisfied customer "TheNewb"
LOL @ Garage full of sportscars BTW.

It looks like the only complaints I see here regard either a long wait with a refund, (Which is refunded based on the first request) and if it has been 7 days, that is definitely not normal, please email us back.

Also, the ebooks: It is quality, not quantity that matters. There is sufficient quantity at the same time.
As an example, my dating ebook is based off my own experiences :) and is real to the bone.

As mentioned, we can do three things for you:

1. Do it for you.
2. Customize it for you
3. Show you how to do it or all of the above.

To John Rambo: I feel proud to share our true experiences with you guys which is more than most people will go out of their way for. A successful launch and 2.0 will be even better. If you were to purchase and not like our service, simply ask us for a get a refund and we will deactivate your project. 2.0 purchase access or immediate access is not available for refunded members of 1.0.

If you have any questions, let me know. I will read through the thread here some more. :)

04 Dec 09 5:59 pm

another unsatisfied customer........still no refund after a week. still trying!

05 Dec 09 9:57 pm

Hi jamie

I already sent you an email to that address on 24/11/09
i got no reply.
i will wait to see if my money is in the bank in about 3-4 days
if not well???

06 Dec 09 8:31 am

The last one went out explaining how we are now sending traffic to all DBP sites and all hell broke loose! Refunded customers were alarmed that we announced complimentary recruitment and SEO services after the 30 day policy expired, and then demanded a reinstatement of their accounts but once refunded it is irreversible

Maybe it wasnt alarmed as you said but "pi$$ed off" that something that they should have got from the start only came in after the refund time limit expired???

complimentary recruitment and SEO services

Wasnt this part of the product anyway??? Seems weird to think that the product wouldnt come with some sort of way of sending visitors to the sites imo.

since this seems to be a place of huge misunderstanding and confusion

I dont think there is misunderstanding or confusion here. From what I have read its people not happy with content and having to rewrite themselves or its people trying to get a refund and not getting it (tho some have).

07 Dec 09 2:54 pm

Firstly thanks for coming on and replying. It makes a difference for prospective customers when they the top dog willing to help out with any queries.

Secondly tho I dont reckon I will be investing in 2.0. I realise this is only one forum and a handful of bad experiences but based on these I would be mad to get a membership. However if I was to change my mind I would have to do a lot of digging around and find some "true" reviews. Also I dont believe in the whole "well you can get a refund in 30 days if you dont like it" premise. I do my homework and if I invest in anything its because I know its gonna be a success. But thats just me, different people different mindsets.

12 Dec 09 12:30 pm

Still waiting on refund
now 9 more days since phonecall from support
also emailed jamie again 2 days ago with (u guessed it no response)
i dont doubt ill get my money it just pisses me off that i will be out of
pocket with charges coz this has dragged on for soooooooo long.
jamie you have lost any future business from me from here on.
Originally asked for refund 24/11/09 you do the math.
and by the way no traffic and no sales so far either.
did get an email from godaddy to confirm domain name change into my name 6 weeks after i first join.
Way to go LOL

12 Dec 09 1:47 pm

look thru a few of my last posts and then tell me why i shouldnt be pissed at how this has been handled
by the way i checked my account about a minute before that post
funny how you can jump on here but cant reply to an email with any updates
your customer service sucks pal plain and simple..
also why the hell should i call you and waste more money on an international call
simple confirmation via email with details of refund and transaction ids would suffice.

22 Dec 09 3:44 am

Wow, hey guys. Well, what a boiling pot I have stirred since my intial post. I must confess I am still hanging on to Digibiz pro, I have made one sale for $47.00, (the sale seems sort of funny though because I made it really quick when Jamie said they were getting us traffic and my traffic stats only showed 1 unique the day of the sale...wow that is a serious conversion rate! LOL) Have not had any other sales since. The PayZeno site is very flaky...it always seems to be down.

Anyhow, I am using Digibiz as a tax write off at this point. Customer support is like pulling teeth to try to get anything done, it takes multiple support tickets and multiple phone calls to get anywhere.

I have spoken to Jamie personally several times and really like him and I believe he is genuine, but things are just not going as planned. The domain names have been transferred to my account so that is a plus, I am hanging on until I see what 2.0 brings and then if nothing has changed I will be selling these sites on flippa.

Jamie - The idea was great - but seriously, you need better support! Everyone that I have talked to have been great but I think your staff is just overwhelmed. I am hoping that you really get things ironed out and that 2.0 will prove to be a far better product than 1.0. I think you have learned a lot on this launch and I really hope that you can at least help me make my initial investment back in 2010. Might I suggest trying to update the sites so that they can be placed on Clickbank. I have put a request in for this and want all of my sites upgraded with graphics, ebook updates, and sales letter revisions. Nothing has been accomplished on this so far. i am still waiting.

An idea might be to develop a piece of software that allows users to choose from a selection of header graphics, ebook and CD graphics and sales letter pitches.

I really hope you can give us a glimmer of hope with 2.0 Jamie cause right now it looks like a really long tunnel and I'm not seeing the light.

Hanging in there, just waiting on you guys to work your magic.'

Dale

22 Dec 09 5:06 am

Yep dude payzeno has a thing for sucking!!!

23 Dec 09 2:50 am

Hey Rambo (love the name..first blood is my all time favorite movie!)

Yes, basically we have gotten no where fast with DigibizPro.

The support is really bad AND....I would be able to tell you where the ip address came from BUT the thing is that I have been waiting for my cpanel logins for the past month (i've called 4 times, opened multiple tickets and thought I finally had it squared away last week when they got one working and then all they had to do was update the remaining 9 BUT instead, they did 3 or 4 and then stopped) SO i am unable to login to my cpanel for that particular site. LOL

I would like to put out a plea to Mark Ling...How's about kicking something in free for all of us that got suckered in from the DigibizPro Webinar and are now basically out $1000. Maybe a Free trip to New Zealand for some personalized training...LOL Well, ok maybe that might be a little excessive but I'd pay my own way if you'd agree to offer up some personal days of training. I think that would be awesome and a huge benefit.

I'm really only kidding but I would make a trip to learn under Mark. He is one of only a few people I truly trust in this business. I'm just trying to laugh off the cool $grand I wasted on the Digibiz sites and hoping that Jamie can prove us all wrong in 2010.

Dale

29 Dec 09 12:57 am

Hey Dale,

I got your message on skype, what happened mate?

There is no "updating" necessary if you would like to place your sites on Clickbank. If it feels like "pulling teeth" when you would like upgrades, then I might recommend following our guides to update and design yourself. This also is the best way to split test, since the process requires fast edits. Again, my team is available to you for the year, but if you do not want to wait for them to make the edit, download the page and work with it. You have choices here. :)

To John Rambo, WOW! Whats the deal dude? Do you have an agenda or what? It's pretty obvious.

2.0 in January, and everything is automated, unique content!

Talk to you guys later,

Jamie

29 Dec 09 2:30 pm

Thanks for your response Rambo.

A few posts ago you quoted text that went along the lines of "I requested sales letter revisions, ebook updates, etc etc." and replied with "So basically youre still waiting for what you were sold on at the start????"

Revisions like these were not promised, but we decided to deliver them. Why the heck not if we have the resources already in place no? But sadly I could probably count a hundred other instances throughout this discussion where you have made assumptions not as a buyer, but as a spectator, all of which have been confrontational, so here I am. I am the creator of the product being discussed and feel privileged to be able to chat with you and other buyers here. I am also using my real name. What is yours?

Jamie

29 Dec 09 4:40 pm

Rambo,

Consider this a discussion no different than a personal meeting. There is no reason whatsoever to hide. I should know! :)
I also wouldn't so quickly assume we are "never going to meet."
I have met many people in the internet marketing world and there once was a day I never thought I would. You could be someone of importance, hence my inquiry. However, after your "you do not need to know my name" comment I do not take this exchange seriously and I doubt any professional marketer would at all either. Some promotions have higher refund rates then others and there is a good reason for that. If you promote a product and then broadcast your regret in promoting it then there will be consequences. Those numbers speak for themselves and stand apart from anything we do. If you doubt the Jamie Lewis brand, take a visit to a forum called Ewealth, Revenue magazine, WarriorForum or the Clickbank blog.

2.0 will be accessible only to current members and new IPs, excluding 1.0 refunders.

Regarding the thread, If my assistance is not appreciated, best of luck.

End of transmission.

Jamie

30 Dec 09 4:02 am

Hey Jamie,

Thanks for the response. Things have been pretty quiet on your end. I guess you are working on 2.0 that we are all looking forward too.

I will be reworking my sites very soon. As far as Clickbank, There are a few things that need to be changed on the sites to get them Clickbank ready but it is not that difficult.

Can you give us an update as to how much affiliate recruitment your group is doing for us? I'm not seeing much traffic to any of my sites. I'm a bit hesitant to to recruit affiliates to any of my sites accept because of the ebooks and because the look of the landing pages are a bit generic. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but personally I have been letting Digibiz run itself to see how it is going to do on its own, that is the reason I bought in because you guys were going to do everything for us. I just haven't seen any real activity yet. Once, I see that these sites can actually make multiple sales, (several each week) from your efforts then I will begin to have a little more faith in the product.

Jamie - Do you have any success stories from any Digibiz Pro member...an I mean real success, where more than one or two sales have been made from each of their sites? Has anyone broke even yet?

I am holding the faith for you man and hoping that 2.0 is going to blow our socks off. Please Show Me the Money!

23 Jan 10 10:32 am

hey dale, u had any word back from jamie re the success stories???

23 Jan 10 7:52 pm

Rambo what is that supposed to mean? "relevant insight?" Are you trying to put me on blast dear sir? Good luck.

Regarding that WF thread, I love it. Its a masterpiece, let me explain..

In the beginning there were a couple good questions, but then a member named "asta411" began to post some very personal blasts that were entirely untrue and libelous. Instead of responding with a hate crime, I politely hinted not to go there. He continued and Simon, Chris and Mofatt joined in with him! I couldn't believe it because I always thought the other guys were honest & fair.

He was immediately BANNED for his involvement in the negativity and attacks. All of his posts were removed from the thread as well as every post he ever made on the entire forum. You can see the remnants of his existence here & there for instance in one of Hoglanta's posts, but that's about it. I PM'd the other contributors and told them never to bother promoting any of our products again & vice versa.

The thread was then locked.

That was the last time I experienced any type of negativity when contributing on WF.

I do understand how when glancing at the thread as it is now (with the deleted attack posts) it looks a bit one sided but I find it humorous that you are going out of your way to broadcast it.

Have a nice day,

Jamie

24 Jan 10 10:49 am

Im not buying it Rambo.

And "Non bias?" Are you kidding me?

As you can see post #12 starts out with "asta411 - I observed the same thing"

The question this Simon character asked was answered quickly here because this was a more professional venue than unmoderated WF where I had to spend my time addressing misinformation on the defensive LOL. On WF It was to the point where any reasonable human being would say, wait, hold on... that sounds very exaggerated and perhaps we should learn a bit more about the product, the service and man behind it. I responded the way you should and he was banned. Interview was over for them. For others I still made myself available.

DigiBizPro freakin' ROCKS. 2.0 is insane as you can see in the new videos! Be sure to check out our 1.0 success stories which will be on the front page.

Jamie

20 Mar 10 12:41 am

BUYER BEWARE!

If you want to WASTE money, then buy it. Allow me to share my experience of DBP with you...I've purchased several of his products before including DBP and I didn't make a single dime from my sites.

Think about it, if thousands of people are promoting the SAME products how will your product ever sell. Not only that, you and thousands of other people are promoting these sites on the same affiliate networks (Payzeno, ClickBank, etc.). Making money from these same now saturated sites will never make any money. Everybody has the same text, graphics, ebooks, etc. although you can change these things I didn't spend all of that money to have to edit my own sites. I thought I would get completely unique sites that requires no altering and not plr sites that every DBP buyers has already. Also, the product ebooks are JUNK! Nobody is going to buy that garbage and even if they do they will probably ask for a refund.

Also if you notice, he doesn't even create these sites himself! He uses mini-site-guru to create these sites. That being the case, I can just go to minisiteguru or any other minisite creator and purchase a completely unique website for $67 instead of paying hundreds or thousands using DBP!

I don't know how this guy sleeps at night scamming people out of their money! I will not buy any of his products ever again. Get your refund while you still can. Don't buy.

09 Jul 11 5:34 pm

This sounds pretty cool!!! But it's pretty funny how everyone is talking about who got their refunds first... hahaha