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burkhardt5
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Can't get a good visitors per day answer.

Hello all!

I've been using http://www.statspy.org/ just to get an idea of how many daily visits i've been getting. It tells me that as of today I am getting 300 visits per day to my site. Google analytics says that I am getting only 32 visits. I have checked some other checkers (including Traffic Travis) and they vary from as little as 0 visits to as much as 300 or so just like http://www.statspy.org/. Can anyone recomend a traffic checker that will give me a real number or estimate?

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Hi Paul,

I have the same problem with StatPress WP plugin. It seems to over estimate the number of 'true' visitors.

You might want to see what awstats says in your website cpanel.

Also recently I have started using www.statcounter. Its a free plug, for up to a certain number of page views.

It's easy to install and newbie friendly. (Not saying that you are a newbie)

Also installed http://www.piwik.org. This was more difficult to install. As the installer has to create a Mysql user and database.

Try http://www.statcounter.com for a starter.

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I think tools like Google Analytics would probably be giving the most accurate figures. I tried out Statspy and it doesn't give you any information other than the daily visitors so I think its a bogus value since the number is far off from my Google Analytics figures which drill down right to visitor information, pages visited, etc.

I've also used Piwik in conjunction with Google Analytics on a couple of sites that I own and the number tally so I think it's safe to say that the numbers are reasonably accurate. So if you're worried about Google knowing too much about your affiliate sites then Piwik is an alternative you can try. Like the previous poster said though, Piwik is a little harder to install.

Hope that helps,
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burkhardt5
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Thank you both for your replies.

This is getting even more confusing.
As of today google analytics is saying that I am only getting 18 visits per day.

I am ranked #1 in google for a phrase that has 4400 monthly searches, #2 for a phrase that has 6600 monthly searches, and #3-4 for three other phrases that have 2000+ searches per month each.

Now, if only half of the first two phrase searches visit my site and only 10% of the other three searches visit my site that still equates to 203 visits per day not including many other phrases that I rank in the top 5 for and direct traffic from my several hundereds of articles on hundereds of sites.

I would think that google analytics would be correct but if you do the math it seems that statspys number makes more sense.

I also tried http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.superiorwowguide.com and it says that I am getting 297 visits per day, which is just like statspy.

Is it possible that google analytics is not acknowledging all the visits for some reason?

Thanks all.
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Is that the traffic estimate for exact match phrases? Sometimes there's a huge difference between broad, phrase and exact match. A good way to check is to see the traffic sources under Google Analytics and see which keywords are bringing in traffic. What you would expect is that the top search engine traffic would be coming in through the keywords you mentioned you are ranking highly for. From there you can see the exact number and see whether they tally with your estimates.

The other thing is that you should be using something like Traffic Travis to check your rank because just typing it in your browser will probably lead to skewed results.

Hope that helps,
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burkhardt5
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Thanks Joshua.

Yes, the rankings are correct #1 for wow strategy guide and #2 for world of warcraft strategy guide.
superiorwowguide.com is my site.
They are exact match and not broad match as far as I know.
But could it be that much different, were talking a difference of 18 rather than 300.
If so, have I completely waisted 100's of hours trying to get to the top for these phrases (be honest please).

Thanks as always.
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Hi,

You are #1 for wow strategy guide, however, exact match is only 390 per month. The good thing about this keyword is that anyone searching for it is highly targeted. As far as what analytics to use, use Google and read about the difference between pageviews and visitors. 1 visitor can have several pageviews.

I don't remember if Mark said to have over 1,000 a month for exact or broad match.
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Hi, I did a little keyword research for you and found that "wow strategy guide" has 320 exact match searches per month and "world of warcraft strategy guide" has 1000 exact match searches. This translates to approximately 5 and 15 visitors per day if you were ranking at number 1 for both search terms.

So if you're getting 32 visitors a day that sounds about right. Congratulations on getting top rankings on these keywords! From what I see they are pretty competitive. I imagine you're getting decent sales from this site?

Just a side note, I took a quick look on the site and thought that it would be good to have a pop up for email opt ins. I only saw one at the bottom.

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Thank you esolutions & Joshua.

This makes sense that I am only getting 30 or so visits.

Going by the other estimate of 300 visits per day would mean that I was only converting 1 sale per about 9000 visits which is terrible. I was only converting about 1 sale per month which actually is 1 sale per 1000 or so which is still not all that good but it makes more sense.

Sales are not as good as you might think Joshua, but just last weekend (1/21/12) I re-wrote some of my content on my home page that seemed to me to be too much like a sales page and changed some other basic things and it seems to have helped.

I made 2 sales this week for a total of $45.19. Hopefully these simple changes will help to keep the sales comming.

Thanks so much for your replies.
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Hi Paul,

I believe that over time you would make many more sales if you were to replace the ad that is above the fold with a free "6 WOW secrets" guide or something that entices visitors to subscribe to your list. Then you give them tips and strategies while persistently recommending complete leveling guides, etc.

Even with 30 targeted visitors a day you could be subscribing at least 15 per day which over time could be converted rather than just having them click an ad and never come back to your site or ads.
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Whenever you are looking at keywords, you should always look at exact search counts. Broad match results are always misleading and are often off by thousands. with broad match, they are looking at anything remotely relevant.

For example, with wow strategy guide, broadmatch could be showing results for searches for wow, wow strategy, strategy guide, wow guide, or any other combination that contains one or more of those words, wildly inflating how many searches you would actually show up for.

exact match always looks at the exact phrase you put in, and nothing else, so it would be much more accurate.

Also, just because you get rankings, don't assume people will click your link. this is where you need to look at your meta title and descriptions. these need to be compelling to get the clicks

Once you get them on your page, you need to see how you are impacting potential customers. often, just because you get the traffic doesn't mean you can convert them into customers, especially if they don't know who you are yet.

One thing to look really closely at with your content on your site is how much of an emotional impact are you having? Remember, people make buying decisions emotionally and rationalize them logically, so if you want to convince people to buy you need to identify to the emotional keys that signal that someone wants to buy, and show how the product you are offering will help them meet these emotional needs.
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