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Difficulty with Keyword selection/research

oliver.tindell
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Difficulty with Keyword selection/research

Hi Guys,

In the past I have always used one keyword optimised sites such as Google Sniper etc. I find that this doesn't work anymore post Panda.

My biggest problem with Affilorama's method, and the main reason I am getting stuck and procrastinating is through keyword research.

Does anyone have any additional tricks to find good keywords to target once I have found a good product on Clickbank? I tried using the product name (very competitive) and Mark's method of going through the sales copy to find keywords, however I find these have little to no search results.

Once I get through this I am good to go!
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maryt
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Hi Oliver,

I am sorry to hear that. Have you tried picking long tail keywords or keywords with buyer intent or emergency keywords? Perhaps you should also look into the way you build backlinks to these keywords and also try to re-evaluate the way you do your SEO campaign?

I always believe that for every niche, you can find easy to rank for keywords. Most of these keywords are long tail keywords. Try to look for these kinds of keywords and perhaps try to gather a number of long tail kws.

Also, you may want to consider adding location to your keywords, if you are interested in promoting products locally. You can also create individual pages with combined keyword + location to widen the scope of your market.

I hope that helps.

Mary
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oliver.tindell
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marytordecilla wrote:Hi Oliver,

I am sorry to hear that. Have you tried picking long tail keywords or keywords with buyer intent or emergency keywords? Perhaps you should also look into the way you build backlinks to these keywords and also try to re-evaluate the way you do your SEO campaign?

I always believe that for every niche, you can find easy to rank for keywords. Most of these keywords are long tail keywords. Try to look for these kinds of keywords and perhaps try to gather a number of long tail kws.

Also, you may want to consider adding location to your keywords, if you are interested in promoting products locally. You can also create individual pages with combined keyword + location to widen the scope of your market.

I hope that helps.

Mary


Hi Mary,

Thank you for your reply. Just to clarify, would you suggest searching the Google Keyword tool with the seed keyword for your niche and drilling down to find profitable keywords that way: i.e. "Dog Scratching" and then finding long tail keywords such as "Dog Scratching Tips" "Tips to stop Dog scratching" etc?
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maryt
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Hi Oliver,

Yes, that is one way to search for long tail keywords. :)

Mary
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oliver.tindell wrote:Hi Guys,

In the past I have always used one keyword optimised sites such as Google Sniper etc. I find that this doesn't work anymore post Panda.

My biggest problem with Affilorama's method, and the main reason I am getting stuck and procrastinating is through keyword research.

Does anyone have any additional tricks to find good keywords to target once I have found a good product on Clickbank? I tried using the product name (very competitive) and Mark's method of going through the sales copy to find keywords, however I find these have little to no search results.

Once I get through this I am good to go!


This is the moment when you show your magic! This why you will get paid cause you find areas that other people didn't found yet.
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Go deeper!

Golden retriever scratching tips, how to stop my golden retriever from scratching, etc...

The keyword tool can help with this, but it's kind of give and take. You need to brainstorm, then feed in the list to see how people are actually phrasing the searches.
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I suggest you use Google Insight as well. This can show you variations of your keyword that is also ranking well. There's also Ubersuggest which shows you variations of the keyword you're looking at. I tend to look at these tools apart from my keyword tool so I can build up a keyword list.

Hope that helps. Have a good day!
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One wonders what a wide gamut keyword research has! Keyword variations can change the complexion of the game of SEO! I just can't believe it!
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oliver.tindell wrote:Hi Guys,

In the past I have always used one keyword optimised sites such as Google Sniper etc. I find that this doesn't work anymore post Panda.

My biggest problem with Affilorama's method, and the main reason I am getting stuck and procrastinating is through keyword research.

Does anyone have any additional tricks to find good keywords to target once I have found a good product on Clickbank? I tried using the product name (very competitive) and Mark's method of going through the sales copy to find keywords, however I find these have little to no search results.

Once I get through this I am good to go!


They are very powerful tools, Mark Ling has powerful steps or systems and he covers most of them and it is up to us expand. He indirectly mentions something called Greyhat techniques. In my first 15 days of intense research I found the hard way that each of Marks steps can cover 10 or more books each :)

Keyword research is the most difficult ,but to know what your customer want is easy if you know the right techniques.

You wont find these information talked about much and here are steps:

Most powerful method that are battle tested and fool proof are:
1 . READY, FIRE AND AIM: includes CPA, SURVEYS TO FIND WHAT OUR MARKET/CUSTOMERS REALLY WANT etc, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SPEND MONEY FIRST AN LOSE SOME MONEY AND THIS IS THE BEST METHOD.

2. KEYWORD RESEARCH TOOLS and find the keywords that our customer wants answered and post the solution into your blog are website and then promote the website. If the way you initiate your steps are good (not perfect), PAIN WORDS, OR FOCUSES ON INSTANT GRATIFICATION METHOD. If you got a good implementation, you will build natural links overtime. This is what Google wants you to do, it is white hat, provides service to people. Google updates cannot take your site down because it is natural links, you can even argue with Google if you got ranked down. I use Keyword Researcher for this!

3. KEYWORDS SUGGESTION TOOLS BASED ON CPA WORDS, like CPA cost per-word etc.

4. You can mix all these techniques and make grey hat methods. This is called implementation or strategy :)

The truth is:
On page SEO and off page SEO must compliment each other, find keywords based on that.

Dirty Truth: You can have the worst keyword but the way you initiate or implementation can make you a biggest success. With tools like copy-writing and instant gratification keywords sky is the limit :)

Implementation includes:
1. Copywriting
2. Grey hat methods that is time tested and fool proof
3. leveraging everything, your money, focus on expanding on the positive aspects unlimited and think big and sky is the limit.

Once again:
Does keyword matter the most?
Nope, implementation is what matters most.

Say for example: If you chose the wrong keyword, but if your implementation is right you can always choose the right keywords on the go :) and as simple as that.

My advice:
Just start with keywords you feel most comfortable, IMMEDIATELY and then look at what people truly want and use those keywords.

This is a tool for long tail keywords I use, free trial one though:
It is called Keyword researcher and it has a free trial and it posts keywords in a way that you can make articles on them straight away. Based on pain words or instant gratification :). Find for gaps where the questions asked are not properly given answers for.

For example: Say I search: "My dog is puking",
Look at the Google results, does the first 10 websites on a page give a proper solution for the keyword in question?

If the first 10 websites does not a solution on the Google search and then when you provide a solution for the problems based on the exact keywords queries, you will naturally ranked higher. On top of that, you will start building natural links :)

here is a cool article:

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/the-noob-gui ... k-building
He has got Go-fish etc which is very interesting and free tool. Also look at the research method he uses using GOFISH free software and you can instantly find what people truly want by peeking through their conversations for free.
This equals to you knowing what 1000's of people really want. There are many other powerful tools that goes even deeper on this subject. So keep it simple and implementation is what matters most and AT THE END OF THE DAY, MONEY LEFT IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT SHOWS HOW SUCCESSFUL YOU WERE WITH THE METHOD :)

expands your mind to the boundless possibilities.

Good Luck
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