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har444har
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keyword vol. searches drive bonkers!

Hi, All.
For the keyword 'akita puppy training' Google shows search vol. nil, and Traffictravis shows daily 22. It occurs so for many other searches. When should be confident?:

1. Both of them tally each other, or
2. Any one of them shows something good or
3. Vol. at Google is okay ,forget Traffictravis or
4. Vol at Traffictravis is okay, forget Google.

Please guide.

Har.
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csherlock
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I would personally go with Google, seeing as this is the search engine we most want to rank in
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wollowra
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When you are dealing with small numbers like this, Google will often say NIL anyway as it is not enough for them to provide any accurate info.
22 is a very small number of searches and I would be targeting higher volume keywords.
You can still use the keyword with a 22 count, but this would be to write an article on it to add extra content to your site.
Either Google or Traffic Travis is fine.
It just takes longer when you are manually doing it from Google Keyword tool.

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Troy
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har444har
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wollowra wrote:When you are dealing with small numbers like this, Google will often say NIL anyway as it is not enough for them to provide any accurate info.
22 is a very small number of searches and I would be targeting higher volume keywords.
You can still use the keyword with a 22 count, but this would be to write an article on it to add extra content to your site.
Either Google or Traffic Travis is fine.
It just takes longer when you are manually doing it from Google Keyword tool.

Regards
Troy

Hi wollowra.
You said
"When you are dealing with small numbers like this, Google will often say NIL anyway as it is not enough for them to provide any accurate info."
But, 22 daily means 22 by 30 = 660 monthly. This is many times more than 100 monthly, and the Google is showing many such figures as low as 100 monthly and even below it. I mean Google should not ignore 660 if it is not ignoring 100 or below monthly. I think some other explanation may go well.
Har.
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wollowra
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Hi Har,
Sorry about that, you are indeed right.
I thought you wrote 22 searches a month.
660 is fine.
Maybe staff can answer why there is a discrepancy.
Send in a support ticket if you like.
http://www.traffictravis.com/help

Also, are you using broad match or exact match in Google keyword tool?
also, here are a couple of posts that I found interesting reading on traffic travis
post66109.html?hilit=traffic%20travis#p66109
and
post64002.html?hilit=traffic%20travis#p64002

Regards
Troy
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Har, That would be a great keyword phrase. I think the difference between the figures is perhaps TT's database isn't as current as Google's as far as traffic figures. But you're still looking at anywhere from 7 to 15 searches per day for that keyword (as of when I ran it about 40 minutes ago). But looking at the SEO Analysis, NO sites in the top 10 have any on page SEO. In fact, I only saw one page in the top 20 with any on page factors, and that was only in the title. Follow Mark's recommendations, and you'll have that easily. As for backlinks, using my brother's formula, aim for a very easily doable 35 backlinks, and you should at least be on page 1 near the top, if not in the top spot. That phrase would be VERY doable!
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I did a search for akita puppy training and got the following results:

Traffic Travis (daily search): 22
Google Adwords (monthly search): 210

Traffic Travis is pulling its data from the old Google tool. Google has since updated their data a few months ago.

We are currently working out a reliable source for keyword search counts to use with Traffic Travis. You should rely more on the Google tool results at this time, because Google has more data.

We really apologize for the inconvenience. However you should be happy to know we are spending more time and effort into making this section better.

Like I mentioned above, this situation is temporary.

All the best!
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michellerana wrote:I did a search for akita puppy training and got the following results:

Traffic Travis (daily search): 22
Google Adwords (monthly search): 210

Traffic Travis is pulling its data from the old Google tool. Google has since updated their data a few months ago.

We are currently working out a reliable source for keyword search counts to use with Traffic Travis. You should rely more on the Google tool results at this time, because Google has more data.

We really apologize for the inconvenience. However you should be happy to know we are spending more time and effort into making this section better.

Like I mentioned above, this situation is temporary.


All the best!


Hi Michellerana.
Thanks for making the whole picture clear. But my math has been disturbed. When did I join affilorama, I was zero to understand the most of the terms and the the way to researches etc. But I thought a simple plan to use the readymade research given in the affilorama affilo jack package for the time being (taking it as holy and confirmed figures). But (lol)! My knowledge has been multiplied by say10 (actually it may be 1.10), but with the time or for any other reason the search volumes taken as holy figures has been divided by almost by 10. If I am not wrong it seems difficult for me to reach upto 5000 by my previous estimates with 'Akita about' formula.

Perhaps the red light of search volumes is telling me to move silently to authority site. I can not leave Akita, then what is the way to extend from here to some safe situation oriented strategies.

For 'akita puppy training' my google adword search is showing no volume. See the current copy of my search:
Keyword Competition Global Monthly Searches Local Monthly Searches
akita puppy training -0 -0 -0
german shepherd training 0.06 18100 1000
german shepherd puppy training 0.05 2900 170
puppy training 0.04 246000 1600
german shepherd puppies training 0.05 3600 170
labrador training 0.04 18100 2400
puppy training tips 0.07 9900 170
labrador puppy training 0.04 3600 320
rottweiler training 0.03 6600 720
akita inu 0.01 165000 170
puppy potty training 0.01 22200 170
akita puppy 0.07 49500 170
american akita 0.01 18100 46
akita puppies 0.07 49500 170
toilet training puppies 0.09 3600 36
how to train a puppy 0.02 90500 1000
puppy obedience training 0.06 5400 36
puppies training 0.03 49500 720
dog puppy training 0.09 5400 73
lab puppy training 0.03 4400 210
labrador retriever training 0.03 4400 210
how to train dogs 0.06 9900 390
puppy training techniques 0.17 2400 12
training labrador puppies 0.04 3600 320
akita dog breed 0.02 1600 260
agility training 0.06 49500 590
german shepherd dog training 0.08 1900 91
boxer dog training 0.04 1900 73
german shepherd training tips 0.1 1300 73
training german shepherd puppies 0.05 3600 170
labrador dog training 0.06 1000 110
obedience training 0.05 74000 720
puppy training classes 0.15 33100 58
dachshund training 0.01 3600 73
golden retriever training 0.02 5400 140
akita dogs 0.03 9900 58
training for dogs 0.09 90500 1600
training a puppy 0.04 246000 1600
dog training guide 0.07 5400 73
rottweiler dog training 0.1 260 46
puppy potty training tips 0.09 2900 22
potty train 0.04 368000 3600
akitas 0.03 40500 110
great dane puppy training 0.07 480 12
adopt a puppy 0.27 40500 390
training puppies 0.03 49500 720
obedience training for dogs 0.07 9900 46
dog breed information 0.06 2900 110
crate training puppies 0.01 33100 110
german shepherd obedience training 0.1 720 16
dog training schools 0.21 18100 260
puppy training school 0.15 1000 0
beagle training 0.02 8100 91
labrador retriever puppy training 0.03 3600 91
potty training a puppy 0.01 22200 170
schutzhund training 0.06 8100 73
dog toilet training 0.13 2400 46
boxer puppy training 0.06 2400 28
akita dog pictures 0.05 590 12
dog training tricks 0.09 1600 36
free puppy training 0.16 1900 46
doberman dog training 0.13 390 22
dog training advice 0.16 4400 22
akita inu puppy 0.06 2900 16
how to train your puppy 0.01 9900 58
canine training 0.08 9900 58
online dog training 0.25 5400 73
akita puppy pics 0.07 590 0
akita inu puppies 0.06 4400 16
guard dog training 0.07 5400 73
how to train puppy 0.02 90500 1000
free dog training 0.2 8100 480
potty training puppies 0.01 49500 390
dog train 0.06 165000 2900
k9 training 0.08 14800 91
pets training 0.06 2400 58
dog obedience school 0.06 5400 28
how to potty 0.03 74000 590
akita training 0 1300 58
house training a puppy 0.08 18100 58
house training a dog 0.06 14800 73
pet trainer 0.04 14800 73
pup training 0.02 1600 91
dog training ebook 0.06 720 58
obedience school 0.07 12100 91
training golden retriever puppies 0.01 1900 46
pitbull training 0.12 12100 36
akitas puppies 0.07 60500 170
pet trainers 0.07 2900 36
how to potty train 0.03 60500 390
german shepherd trainers 0.06 22200 1000
training lab puppies 0.04 2400 210
potty training puppy 0.01 22200 170
attack dog training 0.08 1600 36
animal behaviorist 0.08 60500 1000
akitas puppy 0.06 49500 170
japanese akitas puppies 0.08 5400 5
training an akita 0 1300 58
akita inu pup 0.06 4400 16
akita dogs photos 0.06 1000 16

Please guide me so that my search may also show some vol. I am confused. I do not know which wrong step I have taken to search vol. at the adword.google.


With high regards,
Har.
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har444har
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wollowra wrote:Hi Har,
Sorry about that, you are indeed right.
I thought you wrote 22 searches a month.
660 is fine.
Maybe staff can answer why there is a discrepancy.
Send in a support ticket if you like.
http://www.traffictravis.com/help

Also, are you using broad match or exact match in Google keyword tool?
also, here are a couple of posts that I found interesting reading on traffic travis
post66109.html?hilit=traffic%20travis#p66109
and
post64002.html?hilit=traffic%20travis#p64002

Regards
Troy

Hi Wollowara.
Thanks for your quick response. I was knowing that something was misread by you, as you are a man of logic. Here was nothing for sorry, we all are human (human is to err.)

With regard,
Har.
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Har,

There are some really great keywords in your list, but you have to be careful. As you consider which ones to use, ask yourself "What could someone typing this in be looking for?" For example, someone who types in "how to potty" might be looking for information on how to potty train their 2 year old child (human, not dog). As another example, someone searching for "Akitas" or "Akita dogs" might be looking for either pictures of the dogs or looking to buy one. Or just out to find out more information about them.

Without really looking at the competition in the SEO Analysis, "German Shepard Obedience Training" is a very tightly focused keyword. Someone searching for this term most likely has a dog that is out of control or has a new puppy that they would like to train. You are much more likely to get good results from a keyword like this.

Hope this helps! Remember, the more you can figure out exactly what a browser is going to be searching for, the easier it will be to give them what they need!
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har444har
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gradyp wrote:Har,

There are some really great keywords in your list, but you have to be careful. As you consider which ones to use, ask yourself "What could someone typing this in be looking for?" For example, someone who types in "how to potty" might be looking for information on how to potty train their 2 year old child (human, not dog). As another example, someone searching for "Akitas" or "Akita dogs" might be looking for either pictures of the dogs or looking to buy one. Or just out to find out more information about them.

Without really looking at the competition in the SEO Analysis, "German Shepard Obedience Training" is a very tightly focused keyword. Someone searching for this term most likely has a dog that is out of control or has a new puppy that they would like to train. You are much more likely to get good results from a keyword like this.

Hope this helps! Remember, the more you can figure out exactly what a browser is going to be searching for, the easier it will be to give them what they need!

Hi Gradyp.
Lot of thanks for your tips to select the right keywords. I shall try to follow you.
With regards,
Har.
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har444har
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Hi, Michellerana.

Sorry, my NIL search vol. was due to wrong selection of search options. The said vol. for 'akita puppy training' is correct 210.
Perhaps it may rectify my some current distraction, the outcome of disarray from impaired search vols.

But yes, the rest of the query about site expansion necessary for the sustenance of site is still due, I believe you Michellerana or some other staff member will definitely advise.

Har.
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