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What's going to happen with AMA.?

teresa fernandez
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What's going to happen with AMA.?

Hi all,

We just saw the message on the Article MarketingAutomation website about being closed (due to Google's against blog networks).

What's going to happen with e links to my sites that I got from AMA?
Will these be de-index?
Does Google even have a way of tracing back all blogs that used AMA? Will the make the conexion between them and my sites?

I'm freaking out here! My sites were finally ranking well and stable.

Thanks,
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jmpruitt
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this happens a lot. basically, gonna have to hit the pavement and do some real link building to replace all those links. Google can tell which blogs are in these spam blog networks, and if all your links are coming from them, it can hurt your rankings.

AMA doesn't control all the blogs though, so you won't necessarily lose all of the links. many of the blogs don't get indexed though because they are never promoted by the blog owners, and the content is such rubbish that google ignores it.

The best thing to do is to get out and start networking in your niche. Get to know the real bloggers who actually post quality content on their sites. they only want original content, so you will have to do more work to get the links, but you will also need to do less work to get the same results.

1 guest post on a high traffic blog will do you more good than 100 articles on these spam networks anyway, especially looking at the long term value of those links.
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cecille.l
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Hi Teresa,

James is right. Google knows which blogs belong in the network and if majority of your links are from or through these networks, then your site/s are going to get hit. This doesn't necessarily mean your sites will be deindexed too, you will just see a decrease in rank.

I suggest you do some natural link building like actively participating in blogs and forums within your niche. These links will eventually help boost your page rank.

Hope that helps. Have a good day!
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michellerana
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jmpruitt wrote:1 guest post on a high traffic blog will do you more good than 100 articles on these spam networks anyway, especially looking at the long term value of those links.


Agree :)

Guest posting is an important strategy. Some offer this on their site to connect with more readers and build their online influence. Guest posting also builds relationships with other bloggers and introduces you to new communities.

Submissions to the Affilorama YO Blog are being accepted. Approved articles get a do follow link from your Affilorama YO Blog post back to your site. And if your submission is really good, we may publish it on the regular Affilorama Blog, which means a backlink from a PR6 page. :)

All the best!
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I would just like to update this thread to post a link to Daniel Turner's article on Google's Declaration of War on Link Builders: http://www.theimalliance.com/what-direc ... gle-taking

He also answered some questions on AMA:


When will AMA re-open?

That depends on what happens over the next few months, we're putting in place a LOT more checks, to improve the quality of the network, both from sites in, and from users adding content which (we are hoping) will provide a premiere service to users on both sides.

How much as AMA been affected?

It hasn't, we run regular checks to make sure everything is stable. I'm not naive enough to say it couldn't be, Google have people that are much smarter than I working there, but as with everything we do, we're focusing on quality, quality of network, quality of sites submitted to receive content, quality of content given to site owners.

If for some reason AMA does get affected, I'll man up and tell everyone about it (and full respect to BMR for doing what they did)

Daniel
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In the case of AMA and including the most recent blog network which Google de-indexed- BMR, well they worked. But then, this news is not anymore shocking since in one way or the other, this will happen.

I heard BMR will not anymore re-open its services. I used BMR before and they are really strict about user's submission. They maintain "quality" content. But of course, with a minimum of 150-word, this would not really pass Google standards either. I doubt if AMA would regain its services back.

It is better not to hope or wait and just move along with better link building strategies.
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AMA has been affected by the current "attack" of Google on blog networks but they have not been de-indexed. Or it would have been all over the net, the same way BMR was. But I can't find any piece of news confirming this. I think AMA is still alive primarily because they are a closed member blog network.

The thing is you shouldn't really be relying on just one or two forms of backlinking methods. There are many ways to create backlinks, most of them free like engaging in social media sites and participating in forums and blogs. It tends to be a tedious process and so marketers are drawn to these networks but slow and sure is really the best way to go.

Have a good weekend!
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Cecille L wrote:AMA has been affected by the current "attack" of Google on blog networks but they have not been de-indexed. Or it would have been all over the net, the same way BMR was. But I can't find any piece of news confirming this. I think AMA is still alive primarily because they are a closed member blog network.


Hi Cecille,

Thanks! I should have said it this way:

BMR and AMA are one of the top blog networks who have been affected by Google's de-indexing. Since then, these sites were highly affected as a number of their blog sites have been "de-indexed". Therefore, users of AMA and BMR may have seen a decrease in the number of their backlinks, affecting their overall ranking. Their very sites are not affected though because they pay for these blogs in their network to publish content for them.

Yes, both these sites temporarily closed down, claiming they will improve to pass G's standards. Either way you look at it, Google is not impressed and will never be impressed at all with these blog networks. Matt Cuffs even tweeted these networks are already on his radar. I guess, if these two sites ever come to operation again, who would even risk buying their services?

I must add, for those who are new to link building, never use paid blog networks. Think of other marketing and promotional ways you can freely discuss with the "big guys" in Google. If you will be just discussing techniques like paying a blog network for your links, imagine how Google will react with your suggestion.

Over the years, the discussion between white hat and black hat SEO has always been debatable. A lot of people justifies black hat SEO because its quick and results are quite effective. But on the other hand, also consider that black hat SEO won't ever last. Just see what's happening now?
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Hi macdalangin,

AMA being affected is even conjecture at this point as I am unable to find any news article, or just any article, for that matter that they were part of the Google blog network attack. Their site is closed to new memberships, sure, but that doesn't mean their links have been de-indexed. Again, just guessing here because I can't find any literature to confirm or deny. I'd like to see some write ups confirming AMA's gone the same way as BMR, so please do share if you have come across any.

Black hat vs White Hat. The answer should be obvious.

Marketers tend to stray to the " dark side" because it's easier and quicker to reach your goals through there. Some realize too late, your ranking and even your site can go just as fast too.

Have a good weekend!
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Hi Cecille,

The fact that they closed their service temporarily like BMR did is one proof that they are affected. However, I get your point since AMA only announced that they closed down because of what's currently happening- they may have closed down just to get off the hook before Google catches their network. They did not say it out loud but based upon their message to other blog networks: "To any networks that are still running, grow some balls and be honest." They knew de-indexing is going to happen some time soon to all blog networks. This boils down to the fact that whether a network was de-indexed or not, business is going to end at some point. Unfortunately, this leaves blog network owners no choice at all- either they will still run the site and risk getting caught by Google or they'll be honest to their subscribers and shut down their service.
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