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Why isnt my Clickbank hoplink hiding my affiliate ID?

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Why isnt my Clickbank hoplink hiding my affiliate ID?

Hello everyone,

I hope someone out there can explain this to me and how to work around it.

I'm testing a clickbank product by direct linking for now and what I'm not understanding is that I'm direct linking from my own site but when I click the html hop link it takes me directly as it should to the merchant's site but my link is showing up in the address bar of my browser as: http://www.acnenomore.com/?hop=XXXX the xxxxs is my clickbank id.

Now, I'm using the cloaked clickbank html version of my hop link so why is it showing up like that in the address bar?

I realize that your click bank id shows up at the bottom of the order page but I don't want it showing up in the address bar especially when I'm using the clickbank cloaking???

Can someone explain to my why this is happening and more importantly how to get around it.

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vqaa
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Hi may be check with clickbank
Think they do it to stop theft before the click
Mine do it also but I think that after the visitor has clicked on your link, it is registered as yours and cant be changed
Be interested in what they say
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Thats perfectly normal - the hoplink shield is to prevent people changing your link and you losing any commission but once they've clicked on it then your cookie is recorded by the merchant so if they buy (and some merchants extend this to about 30 days after) you get the commission.

By the way direct linking is usually a term used to describe using AdWords to direct link from a PPC ad to the merchant.

Hope that helps explain it a little.

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Hi Mark,
Thanks for your response. However, I'm none the wiser by your response as to why it is showing up in my browser address bar as http://www.acnenomore.com/?hop=XXXX the xxxxs is my clickbank ID.

I thought the whole purpose of using the click bank cloak was to hide your info from everyone else but the merchant so that we can get paid.

I would have thought that your click bank ID would be considered sensitive information and therefore the cloaking would hide it??

I also thought that using the cloaking from click bank would negate the need for a redirect script??

This is taken from your Date: Thursday,3rd September news letter Hide an ugly affiliate link to enhance clickability

Clickable affiliate links with redirects
301 permanent redirection is the best one to use for hiding your affiliate links.

Could you please clear up my confusion.

Thanks

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Hiding your ugly affiliate link means that when a visitor hovers his mouse over your affiliate links on your site, they will see yourdomain/recommends/productname in the browser status bar instead of the clickbank hoplink. yourdomain/recommends/productname looks more professional and thus visitors will be more likely to click on it than when they see the hoplink in the status bar.

Hiding your affiliate links using redirects can not change whether or not your hoplink will be visible on the address bar after clicking because that is something that can be controlled by the merchant website only. There are merchant websites that do not show your affiliate links in the address bar and there are also those that do. It depends on the set up of the merchant website.
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Hi Faradina,
Thanks for your response I now have a better understanding of what's happening.

Thanks
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Hi Faradina,
I am getting the same as Promotor but now understand some of this. For example, of my promoted products two have my Clickbank ID appearing and one doesn't.

My question however is to do with the status bar when hovering over the affiliate link I am still getting my Clickbank Hoplink rather than the recommends situation. I have done this via .htaccess and html code into a folder with php files. I got the hoplink in both cases.

Any ideas as the hoplink does look ugly when hovering on the link?

Kerry
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Hi Guys,
I found this free software Profit Protector and it hides my affiliate link when I hover my mouse over my link and also hide my affiliate id in the url after my link is click. It seem to be perfect and exactly what I am looking for.

Has anyone use Profit Protector before as I will like to know what your feedback is. I am not sure what script it uses as I don't understand html, so any comments will be very much appreciated.

Just google for it and it should come up as the first one.

Thanks
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paulie69
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Mmmmm, sounds like a form of link cloaking (in the true sense) - but that's against Google policy/TOS, right? Maybe it's a better idea to use the Google-friendly redirect page method just to "mask" the hoplink rather than using software to attempt to hide it. Better safe than sorry I'm guessing.

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I did not know that it is against google TOS. But I do see it being used my some affiliate gurus such as Ewen Chia and Andy Jenkins. Not sure what software they use, but the effect is the same as profit protector.

Will really appreciate someone who is knowledgeable about cloaking shed some light?

Many thanks
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Cloaking is a violation of Google's webmaster guidelines. Your site will be removed from the Google index and will not appear on the search results if you cloak your links.

Here are articles from the Google Webmaster Central that discuss about cloaking:
Cloaking, sneaky Javascript redirects, and doorway pages
Google's Webmaster Guidelines
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I use: http://www.fastblogfinder.com/affiliate-link-cloaker/

Is this a violation of Google guidelines?
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covenantguy
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Hi

Hope someone can shed light on this! I come from another I.M course where they taught us to use tiny and tr.im and b.itly to "cloak links" -or they said,even better, to cloak them with PHP using this piece of code: "<?php
header('Location: "http://youraffiliatelink.com'"); ?>


1) Am I right in thinking that Tiny and tr.im are NOT link cloakers but link shorteners, but they offer the useful feature of hiding the original link from dishonest spammers etc, and giving stats?? I have over 100 of these shortened (in my mind "cloaked") links. Am I depriving myself of PR by using them?? Michelle refers us to Google Webmaster Guidleines which say "Cloaking refers to the practice of presenting different content or URLs to users and search engines:. Using Tr.im etc does not do that-does it??. When you click on that link you go through to the merchant site.

2) How exactly do you use PHP to cloak links ? I was given the above piece of code but don't know how to go about it. I just want something that will work every time and that looks neat and tidy. I notice tr.im has now suspended operations due to overload and am wondering if I should replace all my non-AB website tr.im links???

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covenantguy,

I use http://www.fastblogfinder.com/affiliate-link-cloaker/ because it looks "neat and clean" compared to most affiliate links. I do not think it hides the location of where the person finally ends up if they click on the link. But I am NOT Google. Google makes the rules and we all have to try to figure out what the rules mean.

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Well I'm still in the dark!
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Hi covenantguy, I have discussed creating PHP redirects for hiding your affiliate code on this newer thread: seo/cloaking-multiple-merchant-links-t7771.html
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very interesting mike
So to convert this with two of the main affiliate companies I link to, Shareassale and Amazon.com, I take Your code example, which is:
<?

$linkid = $_GET['linkid'];

if ($linkid == "bluehost") {$link = "http://www.bluehost.com/myaffiliateid;}

if ($linkid == "hostmonster") {$link = "http://www.hostmonster.com/myaffiliateid";}

header("Location: $link");

exit();

?>
If I can substitute "Shareasale .com" as the affilate co (instead of bluehost) and I have a link to a product like this:
"
http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?u=36679 ... 725%2Ehtml"
then , using your php code should it now become this:

"($linkid == "shareasale") {$link = "http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?u=366794&b=87193&m=9450&afftrack=678EH&urllink=www%2Echineseherbsdirect%2Ecom%2Fbupleurum%2Dliver%2Dcleanse%2Dp%2D1725%2Ehtml;}

and then with the next Shareasale product I want to put a Redirect in for, I just change the last bit from "/r.cfm?u=366794"

is that right?
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mikeantiga
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It should be like this:

if ($linkid == "shareasale") {$link = "http://www.yourshareasaleaffiliatelink here";}

if ($linkid == "amazon") {$link = "http://www.youramazonaffiliatelinkhere";}

if ($linkid == "3rdmerchant") {$link = "http://www.your3rdmerchantaffiliatelinkhere";}

You can add as many companies/products/merchants as you want. Make sure you copy the exact affiliate link and do not forget the quotation marks before and after the link.

The link that you posted is not working by the way, is the same link that was provided to you on your affiliate account?
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Hi Mike

When I click on the blue-colored link it clicks thru to a liver cleanse product.. What do you mean it doesnt work?

Also-just to clarify because it takes me a while!- my practice at the moment is to leave an index.php piece of code on Notepad on my desktop. like this:
"<?php
header( 'Location:http://www.Myaffiliatelink' ) ;
?>
When I have needed to create a Redirect what I have done is put the affilaite link for ONE product into the above piece of code. Then I have gone to Filezilla, created a new Folder called Product X, which sits in another folder called "Recommends". Then I upload the php link on my desktop so it shows up as this url: "http://mydomain.com/Recommends/Product" X

Then I save that link somewhere else on my computer and REUSE that index.php for the next affiliate link.

How does your piece of code save me time?. a) Do I still upload the php code to Filezilla? b) IF I only have a Shareasale link I want to upload and create a Redirect for, do I still use your piece of code and have to create a new folder in my FTP client called "ShareasaleproductX". Will it work even if part of your PHP code will have nothing to put in the "Amazon" link part or the "Productno3" part?-if you see what I mean?
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The sample code that I pasted has all the affiliate links that I use. In this way, I don't have to create a separate PHP file for every redirects that I want. I just saved this PHP file as 'redirect.php' and use it to redirect my visitors into different merchants. For example if I need to create a link that points to BlueHost, I just use this URL format:

"http://www.mydomain.com/redirect.php?linkid=bluehost"

Since my affiliate link for BlueHost is already defined on the sample PHP file I posted, I just have to add "?linkid=bluehost" after the redirect.php and the resulting URL will automatically redirect to BlueHost website using my affiliate link.

Same thing for HostMonster, I just have to insert a URL like this:

"http://www.mydomain.com/redirect.php?linkid=hostmonster"

and any visitor who would click that link would be redirected to HostMonster website using my affiliate link. Note that I also defined 'hostmonster' and my affiliate link for HostMonster through the code:

if ($linkid == "hostmonster") {$link = "http://www.hostmonster.com/myaffiliateid";}

You'll notice that the links are all using the same file which is 'redirect.php' and I just have to modify the last part of the URL ( example: redirect.php?linkid=hostmonster or ?linkid=bluehost ) to indicate to which site would the visitor will be redirected.
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Where do you save the redirect.php file? On your desktop, like my current index.php file template is? And in the example I gave with the Shareassle link, would it look like this when I input a new affilaite link:
<?

$linkid = $_GET['linkid'];

if ($linkid == "shareasale") {$link = "http://www.shareasale.com/myaffiliateid;}

if ($linkid == "hostmonster") {$link = "http://www.amazon.com/";}

header("Location: $link");

exit();

?>
-where the affiliate id for amazon is left out because I'm not needing an amazon link redirect at that time.
THEN do I upload the above link in its entirety to Filezilla? Is there a folder in Filezilla already saved there called redirect.php. which I upload the php code to?
I understand what I am doing when I upload and save one index.php file at a time, just can't get my head around what you are saying with the longer piece of code!
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You should upload the file redirect.php (or recommend.php) into the 'public_html' directory so that it will be accessible via the URL format

"http://www.yourdomain.com/redirect.php?linkid=shareasale" .

If you upload into a subdirectory, your URL would look like this:

"http://www.yourdomain.com/subdirectory/redirect.php?linkid=shareasale".
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Hi Mike

It just isnt working!
I created a file called "redirect.php" and sat it on my desktop.

I put two links in it like so:

<?

$linkid = $_GET['linkid'];

if ($linkid == "shareasale") {$link = "http://www.shareasale.com/the rest of my affiliate link";}

if ($linkid == "amazon") {$link = "http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/the rest of my amazon affiliate link";}

header("Location: $link");

exit();

?>I then created a directory under Public HTML in my FTP client and called it the same name, as you said to do.
I uploaded the file from the desktop to the FTP directory.
Then I typed the url "http://mydomain.com/redirect.php?linkid=shareasale

and I got no product coming up-just an index page.
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You don't need to create a separate folder inside public_html if you want to use the URL format

"http://www.yourdomain.com/redirect.php?linkid=shareasale"

You just have to upload the file directly into the 'public_html' folder.

If in case you really want to upload the ''redirect.php' file into a subdirectory inside the public_html, your URL will be like this:

"http://www.yourdomain.com/yoursubdirectory/redirect.php?linkid=shareasale"

I've sent sent you a PM by the way.
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Just an update, the redirects are already in place.


"http://johnreason.com/recommends.php?linkid=amazon" is already working.

"http://johnreason.com/recommends.php?linkid=shareasale" is also redirecting but still gives a 'Forbidden' page. This might be due to an invalid affiliate link.
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Awesome

It doesn't say "forbidden " when I do it>
thanks a bunch. By the way I sent you another PM
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Thank you michellerana!. I have been racking my brain for hours trying to hide my hop in the address bar. So there is NO WAY to hide it?... Just Checking.
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It depends on how the merchant's site is set up as Fara had said in the first page of this thread :)

faradina wrote:Hiding your ugly affiliate link means that when a visitor hovers his mouse over your affiliate links on your site, they will see yourdomain/recommends/productname in the browser status bar instead of the clickbank hoplink. yourdomain/recommends/productname looks more professional and thus visitors will be more likely to click on it than when they see the hoplink in the status bar.

Hiding your affiliate links using redirects can not change whether or not your hoplink will be visible on the address bar after clicking because that is something that can be controlled by the merchant website only. There are merchant websites that do not show your affiliate links in the address bar and there are also those that do. It depends on the set up of the merchant website.
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I am new on this. What is the purpose?

Anybody can share a link for me to read further?

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So I edited my first page and I inserted a text link at the bottom of the Article....Saying [url]ClickHere![/url], with my hoplink to the Product. The problem is that it is not showing up on the page...? I have deactived all plugins...any suggestions...?
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Yes, you're using the wrong tag. Don't use [url]. Instead, use <a href="http://www.yoursite.com">click here</a>

[url] is only used primarily in forums and sometimes comments. Nowadays most websites use the <a href> tag.
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No sir I am not...I am using ...
<a href="http://49006fuhu8s2aregpg1e3m3p5a.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=GEN1" target="_top">Click Here!</a>
Exactly...do I need to take out a character or...
So I think I answered my own question...I went into the HTML view and did a few cut and paste and at least figured out how to get the "click here" to work....So I do have a page that Can work....Thank You all for your time...again
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You can also use the Upload/Insert link icon in the Wordpress Post Editor to insert URLs/links on your website. The Visual Tab should show the text as a link and you should be able to click on it while the HTML tab will show you the actual HTML code which you can also edit, if necessary.

Hope that helps. Have a good day!
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