ClickBank versus AdSense
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tjenpenge - Posts: 21
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Would it make sense to place AdSense on those particular pages instead?
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wollowra - Posts: 1268
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In my opinion I would pick the best keywords and still go with your plan.
Then give it a few months and tweak here and there..
You could get 2 sales and $40 and more as time goes on, where adsense will be just a few cents at a time.
Then if it is not going to plan, you can decide to put adsense on the site.
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tjenpenge - Posts: 21
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Thank you for your advice. I'll stick to that and see what happens :-)
All the best,
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However, if it is getting 2-3 thousand visitors a month and you arent making money, try adsense
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You should be checking your keywords for commercial intent before you even get to the stage of building your site. You need to be reasonably certain that those keywords are converting and not just getting traffic. Traffic keywords are usually people just looking for information, not buyers.
Here are some examples.
People seeking information might type in phrases like:
dog training
train my dog
train a dog
People looking to buy something will type in much more focused keyword phrases like:
dog training school
dog training book
dog training Los Angeles
dog training course
Or product names like:
Sit, Stay, Fetch
Kingdom of Pets
Some other phrases to look for are:
lessons
course
author name
Some products are for physical/mental ailments and you'd want phrases like:
cure
remedy
remedies
relief
get rid of
remove
That's only touching bases on a few things, but hopefully you get the idea. You can test keyword phrases to see which ones convert into sales by using pay per click advertising and tracking each individual phrase all the way down to the sale. It's best to start off with smaller groups of related words and track by the group first, especially if you have a large keyword list. Look and see which group(s) most of your sales are coming from and then track each keyword individually from there.
You can also keep track of the top paid ads listed in Google for each keyword phrase. The idea here is to see which ads are still bidding on the keyword after two weeks or more. Those that are still there are likely making a profit. Why would they spend money on advertising if they weren't? Of course there are exceptions to this rule, like insurance which makes most of its money on the backend, but normally this will work. You can use free tools like SpyFu to research keywords and see how long ads have been there too.
There's also other paid software that is excellent for doing this type of research.
Also, if an offer isn't converting well after you've sent 300-400 visitors or more, you may want to test another offer in its place. This could be the result of a crummy salesletter or a bad reputation. Did you type in the product name into Google before you promoted it? Of course, there will be some affiliate reviews that try to sell the product, but there should be some honest ones as well. I just did this last night for a product that's been a best seller at Clickbank for years, but I found out that many people were saying it wasn't as good anymore and that there were better options available now. That research saved me money AND got me a better product! Do your research!
Newb, I highly recommend that you stop everything you're doing and go back and watch the videos of Mark creating this new blog. There are many lessons to be learned there that you need to know before you go any further, otherwise you may end up frustrated. Just trying to help you.
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Think about what those ads on your site will link to. PPC landing pages promoting the same Clickbank product your trying to promote perhaps?
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I would not dispare about the keywords you chose being off the clickbank target. You have a nice foundation to build on now. What you can do now is create some pages with "buying" keyword phrases that are reviews of your product you are selling in clickbank. Then work your SEO on that page.
Getwealthy...
Regarding your question. I use the same adsense code on over 15 different websites that are all hosted with Hostgator, same account. All of the websites are different niches, but I use the same adsense account.
To my knowledge Google does not have any problem with you using the same Adsense account with an unlimited amount of websites.
As long as they are not duplicate websites, you'll be fine. :)
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Where with Clickbank you can make $20 to $50 from one sale, with Adsense it took 15,000 visitors over 3 months to make me $20.00. That is because less than one percent clicked on the ads and each of those 150 clicks earned me an average of 13 cents.
One top blogger wrote that to make a $2,000 per month from Adsense you will need 200,000 visitors a month and I believe him. (these numbers a guestimates, don't hold me to it).
That is why only 5% of my banner ads are Adsense and the rest are affiliate links.
Smuigal is right. You can have one adsense account and add the HTML codes to any niche website & Google will adjust the ads to reflect the content.
I would follow the advice not to give up on Clickbank and keep testing and changing things on your webpage such as keywords, content, headlines and niche product until you hit the right combination that converts.
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the widgets put them into blocks that look like adsense. Some of them even pull relevant ads to the tags and kw on the page. I have one on a general blog I run, and I get 20-30 hops/ day. the only ads on the blog are in the sidebar. I don't do ads on the page, but people see them and click through.
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I have a few adsense sites, but they were set up especially for making money with the adsense program. For adsense sites I target tiny niches with virtually no competition (easy to rank quickly and for a long time), an average adwords cpc above $0.70, and a decent amount of traffic. I also make sure that I can get a domain with my main keyword in it (.com or .org are best). I have had a decent amount of success using this method, although the commissions potential of affiliate sites are far more alluring to me these days.
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another option to consider might is use the clickbank HopAds - ads that looks like adsense
HopAd Builder
http://www.clickbank.com/help/affiliate-help/affiliate-tools/hopad-builder/
you only get paid if someone buys, but you get the clickbank commission, not a few pennies for the click
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Anyway the great thing is that Prosperent is an affiliate with thousands of companies and they then add targetted ads to your pages depending on the search term, and you get much higher commissions if someone clicks through and buys. If for some reason they dont have a targetted ad then you can set it to default back to Adsense. My income has gone up considerably.
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I am also looking at the difference between Adsence/Clickbank.
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rangi54 wrote:Thanks for the responce's so far...
I am also looking at the difference between Adsence/Clickbank.
Adsense is program run by Google where website owners get paid for displaying Google ads that are relevant to their site's content.
Clickbank is a retailer of digital products. It is also an affiliate program network which means that they are the middle station between the digital product sellers and the affiliates who want to promote them.
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wollowra wrote:Hi TJ,
In my opinion I would pick the best keywords and still go with your plan.
Then give it a few months and tweak here and there..
You could get 2 sales and $40 and more as time goes on, where adsense will be just a few cents at a time.
Then if it is not going to plan, you can decide to put adsense on the site.
Regards
Troy
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michellerana wrote:rangi54 wrote:Thanks for the responce's so far...
I am also looking at the difference between Adsence/Clickbank.
Adsense is program run by Google where website owners get paid for displaying Google ads that are relevant to their site's content.
Clickbank is a retailer of digital products. It is also an affiliate program network which means that they are the middle station between the digital product sellers and the affiliates who want to promote them.
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You see, I have sites that I put up simply because I had an interest in a certain topic, and not all of them are in what we would call a profitable niche (if I really think of it, I'm guessing I will find that none of them really are). They are for personal gratification :)
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wollowra wrote:Hi TJ,
In my opinion I would pick the best keywords and still go with your plan.
Then give it a few months and tweak here and there..
You could get 2 sales and $40 and more as time goes on, where adsense will be just a few cents at a time.
Then if it is not going to plan, you can decide to put adsense on the site.
Regards
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Any sort of advertising on your site where you promote clickbank products should be for the clickbank products that you promote. If you are to add anything else at all, it should be an opt in to your newsletter series.
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moneynetbus
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faradina wrote:Oh no, no, no!!! Do not do both!!! We at Affilorama do not recommend that.
Any sort of advertising on your site where you promote clickbank products should be for the clickbank products that you promote. If you are to add anything else at all, it should be an opt in to your newsletter series.
wow, I never knew that, makes sense though good advice. I have a few a few sites promoting clickbank that have adsense links on them. I will have to remove them.
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faradina
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We do not really have anything against adsense. It's just that on affiliate sites, adsense can distract site visitors from clicking your affiliate links and/or signing up for your newsletter. You stand to make a lot more from affiliate referrals than from adsense clicks.
I use adsense a lot myself, but not on my affiliate sites and niche sites. I put adsense on my test sites and on sites where I am not currently promoting or selling specific products.
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If you compere a 20-30 pages AdSense site to a Affilorama type Clickbank review site you will almost certainly make more money with the Clickbank site. However I am willing to bet my Ass that if you create a really well optimized Adsense site in a good niche that needs to probably be around 100 pages+, hard to say exactly. The site needs lots of valuable content anyway. Then I am willing to bet my ass that such a site is going to make more money than a Clickbank review site will ever make!
However If you enhance your Clickbank affiliate:ness and Start to promote JV stuff. There are a few people that does this.
There is one well known French marketer Vita Vee, he or someone out of his forum Is almost always on first spot in Google on the big launch days from well known marketers. For keywords like Affiloblue Print 2 review, affilojetpack review, empire formula review and so on. This is by faar the most profitable Clickbank promotions one can do without owning a Product. And this will certainly beat almost any AdSense site if it´s not 10000 pages+ In credit repair niche :). But to do this successfully you will need to go up against some of the most savy SeNuke users there is.
It’s a interesting discussion this whole thing and I would liked to add Physical Products to the discussion too. In my Own opinion Physical products is the way to go. I feel like CB conversions is going way downward and I have have hard time find quality products there too. If we ignore software for a while, In my experience no matter what niche you pick on CB you can always find a better quality product at Amazon. Some interesting stuff Is also that when you look around at some IM blogs there are a few people that actually publish their earnings every month and most of these people are making more from Adsense than CB. Now it´s hard to know if they work on each type of promotions 50-50 but anyways it’s a interesting fact. I am also not really sure how I should interpret some of the answers here since this is the text you can read under partners tab in the footer.
“Affiliate Network Clickbank has become a key partner of Affilorama. As one of Clickbank’s top-10 merchants, Affilorama has a unique relationship with Clickbank senior management.” You might or might not need to answer in a certain way :)
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Adsense is ok, and I am not a top CB affiliate by a long shot. yes a 100 page adsense site would make more (if promoted correctly) than a 20 page AB site, but if I had a 100 page site, it would be making money with cb ads long before it got that big. Adsense is pretty useless in my opinion. there are so many other ways to get better commissions.
I could put CPA offers, on it, amazon, my own products, (If I can write a 100 page site, AND enough articles to get all those pages ranking, I should have my own ebook !)
The fact is, with these article sites, monetization isnt the issue. Building the site, and getting it ranking in search is the hard part. If you get the traffic going, it doesnt really matter how you monetize it, it will make money.
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I would not degrade Adsense this hard there Is certainly a lot of people making decent coin with Adsense.
Thats what I felt that I needed to comment this when some comments like. "You might earn at least a few cents if you have 5000 site visitors per month for a new site."
This is way of. With only a CTR Rate of 1-2% in a decent niche you make some decent coin in Adsense with 5000 visitors. NOT a few cents......
With That said I totally agree with you that there is way better options than Adsense in my opinion too. There is a abundance of affiliate offers these days what ever its CPA, Lead Gen, Physical products. There is thousands of affiliate networks not to mention all in house affiliate programs.
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If they are not interested in the product I have on my site, they usually click Adsense ads which makes money I would not have made.
I have tested in many different ways, and I make good money with Adsense as well as the offers I have on my sites...
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I've had a site since 2004 in a narrow niche with about 80 pages of content. I have tried adsense, cb offers and cpa offers. I've done okay with all of them. My click bank sales come in rushes. All of sudden I'll make 10-15 sales in a week and then nothing for a couple of weeks. I don't know why as I send a constant stream of traffic to these offers. I figure it just depends who else is marketing the product in given point in time.
With cpa offers I have made good money $1000/week for some offers but over time this has reduced to <$100 per week. Again as more marketers pick up the item I've seen my sales drop off.
My adsense revenue has practically doubled every month each year. So my earning this January was twice last Jan and that was twice the Jan before. I think this is due to more traffic each year, a higher cpc for the advertiser and some tweaking by myself.
I only have one thing per page. So if I have a cb offer, I have no adsense and vice versa.
Recently I checked the analytics of my best CB offer. I had a earning per hop of .58 cents. That is it took 13 hops per oder form impression. Each order form impression resulted one third sales. There were 38 hops to make one order order.
My adsense figures (rounded) for Jan on the same site was 26,000 page views, 2290 clicks, page ctr% 8.8%, cpc .58cents.
The interesting thing for me is that it doesn't matter whether they click adsense or cb I make .58cents per click.
I still have the odd amazon offer and other cpa offer on the site where they fit but I haven't bothered to work out their return as it is no where as good.
Hope this helps.
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Actually I am talking about an CB affiliate program. Not every click to an affiliate link results in a purchase. The product that I was linking to is the hottest product in clickbank for this niche. The product costs $47 to the buyer. I get $22.16 in commision from the sale. If 38 people click on the link I get one sale, thats a 2.6% conversion rate. This works out at 58cents per click on the link. I'm guess I'm trying to compare oranges with apples in a meaningful way and I thought it may be helpful if I put up real figures rather than...
I mus say that this particular niche is health related and people don't really want to sign up to a newsletter about it, maybe embarrassment, who knows. So in this case there is not a lot (read none) of repeat business. Although I do keep the email addresses from clickbank and have sent cpa offers to this list in the past.
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And the logic is simple: You DON'T want to let your visitor get away to some other site, whether it being adsense or anything. MANY will click back or close your window anyway. The few that don't, don't push them away! Allow them to stay on your site. :-)
So, always only promote one specific product per page. And ONLY use adsense etc on pages which, because of their content, naturally don't have a product to promote.
In Warriorforum you'll find many people claiming that they make THOUSANDS of dollars a month with ca. 50 or so sites. NONE of them could prove this yet - despite their shiny video fakes.
Now, I am not an example anyway, but on a pure content site, with thousands of pages (my flagship forum) I used to earn ca. $150 a year between say 2000 and 2005. Since then it's down to $10 or so a year. :-0
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jmpruitt wrote:I recommend giving a site 6-7 months. If you are getting HIgh traffic and still no sales, then consider Adsense. However, You should try the clickbank products first. that is going to be more profitable in the end.
Is this the period of trials for the clickbank 6-7 months. I think it's too long. Can't this be done by two? Clickbank and adsense?
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Ambit Energy wrote:jmpruitt wrote:I recommend giving a site 6-7 months. If you are getting HIgh traffic and still no sales, then consider Adsense. However, You should try the clickbank products first. that is going to be more profitable in the end.
Is this the period of trials for the clickbank 6-7 months. I think it's too long. Can't this be done by two? Clickbank and adsense?
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facts101 wrote:There is a wealth of good information posted here. Personally, I have not found that AdSense is beneficial. The money is not worth distracting away from my page. I like what jmpruitt does with WP plugins and the Clickbank ads. Now, that makes sense and it's a viable solution with great benefits.Thanks James for the great advice!
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You can monetize your website with adsense if you can pick a niche which usually pretty competitive with high CPC, hence, it's difficult to get your site rank higher at google, unless, you build a consistent backlinks from quality site with high PR too.
Otherwise, what's the point with the low CPC keywords - the lower it is, the lower you will make.
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But the hard work pays off I think since Clickbank pays more in commission than AdSense.
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The saying "Content is King!" still holds true up to this days and my recommendations would be for you to build your keywords in a rich content site of yours if you haven't done so since you are targeting to make a sale at clickbank which gives out 75% commission on every sale it is important to remember that you've got to make your readers interested and not putting to much emphasis on your affiliate links because as you go along your site becomes more interesting also to google's serps and you will find more traffic on your site with your highly targeted keywords which in turn would mean a sale!
Affiliate Marketing is not rocket science it simply means you got to have more traffic which means a lot of money doing PPC campaigns but nothing to worry though because affilorama will be your best kept secret tools to use to be successful in Affiliate Marketing by giving you bullet proof trainings and video guides. On the other hand if your not yet ready to spend some money on PPC which most affiliate marketer does in getting a lot of traffic, you can just build a rich content sites along with your keywords and make your readers hungry for more information which will eventually lead to a sale.
It is also time for you to serve some adsense ads on your site to be able to monetize on your rich content site while at the same time promoting a clickbank products because it will benefit you in the end because you increase your chances in google's serps by providing quality content which means free traffic and at the same time earning revenues on your adsense ads which is not bad, around 60% to 70% and getting those clickbank sales at the same time, it's like hitting two birds in one stone!:D
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With affiliate programs you make money on a long term while with adsesnse on short.
I found that you earn much more with affiliate programs.
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justonce94 wrote:Adsense is great!!! But the money you can earn from Cb is greater - if you do things right!
Agreed 100%
It's anyone's personal decision: money fast ( adsense ) or more money slower ( affiliate programs )
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info28
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- Joined: 21 Aug 11
- Location: Turkey
21 Aug 11 7:29 am
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karell_li
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- Joined: 17 Aug 11
- Location: Philippines
01 Sep 11 6:35 am
My advice for you is to stick with adsense for about 3-4 months and watch if your sales will meet your expectations. But when the said time comes and still don’t have any progress on your sales, I think that’s the perfect time to change your adsense to clickbank and added by thinking of a very strong keywords.
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chezza.rushton
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- Joined: 08 Oct 11
- Location: Great Britain
16 Oct 11 2:52 pm
Can anyone tell me how to remove my website's previous owners adsense coding, in order to replace it with my own. I already have an adsense account used on another website I have. I believe I need to access the html code of my website (if this is correct) but I have no idea how to do this.
I would really appreciate any help with this
Cheryl
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michellerana - Posts: 2046
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16 Oct 11 6:37 pm
Hope that helps!
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Thanks James for the great advice!